Arguments and Their Evaluation

From
"Monty Python's Previous Record"
and
"Monty Python's Instant Record Collection"

Originally transcribed by Dan Kay (dan@reed.uucp)
Subsequently tidied up a bit and expanded to include
"Complaint" and "Being Hit On The Head Lessons"
by Tak Ariga (tak@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu) Aug/87

Dramatis personae
(in order of appearance)

Man looking for an argument (M)
Receptionist (R)
Abuse Specialist, Mr. Bernard (B)
Argument Specialist (A)
Complaint Specialist (C)
Head Hitting Instructor (H)


M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.

R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?

M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.

R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?

M: Well, what is the cost?

R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.

M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.

R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.

     (Pause.)

R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.

M: Thank you.

     (Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

B: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

M: Well, I was told outside that...

B: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!

M: What?

B: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!

M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!

B: OH! Oh, I'm sorry, but this is abuse.

M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.

B: Ah, yes, you want room 12A. Just along the corridor.

M: Oh. Thank you very much. Sorry.

B: Not at all.

M: Thank you. (Under his breath)  Stupid git!!

     (Walks down the corridor. Knocks.)

A: Come in.

M: Ah, is this the right room for an argument?

A: I told you once.

M: No you haven't.

A: Yes I have.

M: When?

A: Just now.

M: No you didn't.

A: Yes I did.

M: You didn't

A: I did!

M: You didn't!

A: I'm telling you I did!

M: You did not!!

A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

M: Oh, just the five minutes.

A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not.

A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.

M: No you did not.

A: Yes I did.

M: No you didn't.

A: Yes I did.

M: No you didn't.

A: Yes I did.

M: No you didn't.

A: Yes I did.

M: You didn't.

A: Did.

M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.

A: Yes it is.

M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.

A: No it isn't.

M: It is!

A: It is not.

M: Look, you just contradicted me.

A: I did not.

M: Oh you did!!

A: No, no, no.

M: You did just then.

A: Nonsense!

M: Oh, this is futile!

A: No it isn't.

M: I came here for a good argument.

A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

A: It can be.

M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

A: No it isn't.

M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.

A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.

M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'

A: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

     (Short pause.)

A: No it isn't.

M: It is.

A: Not at all.

M: Now look.

A: (Rings bell) Good morning.

M: What?

A: That's it. Good morning.

M: I was just getting interested.

A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes!

A: I'm afraid it was.

M: It wasn't.

     (Pause.)

A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.

M: What?!

A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!

A: (Hums.)

M: Look, this is ridiculous.

A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

M: Oh, all right.

     (Pays money.)

A: Thank you.

     (Short pause.)

M: Well?

A: Well what?

M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.

A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

M: I just paid!

A: No you didn't.

M: I DID!

A: No you didn't.

M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.

A: Well, you didn't pay.

M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I got you!

A: No you haven't.

M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.

A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.

M: Oh I've had enough of this.

A: No you haven't.

M: Oh shut up.

     (Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.

C: You   want to complain! Look at these shoes! I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through!

M: No, I want to complain about...

C: If you complain, nothing happens; you might as well not bother.

M: Oh!

C: Oh, my back hurts! It's not a very fine day, and I'm sick and tired of this office.

     (Slams door. Walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!

H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go "Waaah." Try it again.

M: Uuuwwhh!!

H: Better, better, but "Waah, Waah"! Put your hand there.

M: No.

H: Now.

M: Waaaaah!!!

H: Good, good! That's it.

M: Stop hitting me!!

H: What?

M: Stop hitting me!!

H: Stop hitting you?

M: Yes!

H: Why did you come in here then?

M: I wanted to complain.

H: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.

M: What a stupid concept.

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For something completely different, here’s our own discussion of Arguments and their Evaluation. Garth Kemerling has a discussion of Arguments and Inference that covers much of the same ground on his Philosophy Pages. On the subject of fallacies, not really covered here at all, there are a couple of good sources on the Web: Stephen Downes’s Guide to the Logical Fallacies, illustrated with lots of examples, and Gary Curtis’s rather more comprehensive Fallacy Files, also illustrated with lots of examples. Finally, there’s a nice discussion of Argument Analysis at Hong Kong University’s Critical Thinking Web, a site with more than 100 free online tutorials on various aspects of critical thinking.