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Katchan
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 Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 11:31:03 AM
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| According to the film on Friday, true stoic should spare nothing if it means doing the right thing. This must have been a hard level for most stoics to reach, because the instinct of self-preservation is very strong in most humans. Also, how great would the cause have to be to justify a willing sacrifice? |
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Pritchard
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Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 12:16:22 PM
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| The Stoics, I believe, would have argued that the size or greatness of the cause mattered as long as the cause was right and just. I think that was part of what the Stoics were trying to achieve, detachment from the part of themselves that would refrain from acting if a cuase were not 'big' or important enough. Because a Stoic would be trying to live a virutous life, there is no good cause to small for willing sacrifice, and alternatively that would mean that there would be no cause to great for willing sacrifice. |
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matt D
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Posted - Nov 09 2006 : 10:05:18 PM
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| I think in light of this discussion it becomes imperative to think on the role of virtue in the world at this time. One could argue that for the stoic the ultimate end, given the parameters laid out in the post previous, is to be fully endowed with virtue and fully extracted from evil which becomes a later defining characteristic of Roman virtue. |
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Brushaber
Fledgling
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Posted - Dec 14 2006 : 11:58:22 PM
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| i don't think this should be so complex. The cause is equal to the sacrafice. If the cause is something big like saving 20 people, then yes your life will end and that is what is good, that is a just sacrafice. If the cause is something like darla is really sad, and you have to sacrafice your time to cheer her up, then that is the just sacrafice. The sacrafice will always match the cause, and so every sacrafice will be just. |
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