| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - May 14 2010 : 1:01:29 PM
Here's the place for all your general questions and thoughts about the course: - Questions or thoughts about the syllabus or the course requirements in general.
- Questions or thoughts about the three questions we're going to be focusing on this semester.
- Questions or thoughts about the things I've said on the wiki about the three basic skills.
- Questions or thoughts about the things I've said on the wiki about what's involved in really doing philosophy.
- Any other questions or thoughts you have about the course itself.
Just click on "Reply to Topic" below and jump right in. |
| 20 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 3:01:35 PM
I think you'll like him! |
| John Koban |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 1:06:54 PM
It looks like I will be getting to know Jack really well; I will be taking two of his courses in the fall and one in the spring. |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 12:40:26 PM
Jack Temkin's going to be doing it. I'm taking over the duties of the chair, and to compensate, he's taking over PHIL 260. He's really good on ancient philosophy, and this way, between the course you're taking from me right now and PHIL 260, you'll get two local perspectives on ancient philosophy -- or at least an important chunk of it -- for just twice the price of one! |
| John Koban |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 12:26:43 PM
Tom, I have been informed that you will not be teaching Ancient in the fall--what's the deal with that! |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 09:16:46 AM
There's no quiz this week. Taking the final and finishing up the final draft of your essay is going to be more than enough to do. There's also no new lecture to read, and there's no new assignment in Plato.
You are responsible for your usual twelve postings, and it is twelve now, not ten. I want you to read and comment on each other's final drafts! In the Reading Room, feel free to comment on any of the readings. You can't post on just anything, but you can certainly comment on any of the readings.
You'll find a few more details on the Assignments page in Blackboard, which you should consult. |
| Aaron Mund |
Posted - Aug 02 2010 : 09:00:37 AM
Is there a quiz this week or only the test? Are we responsible for our ten postings? If yes, the does it matter what we post on in the Reading Room? |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Aug 01 2010 : 7:52:53 PM
The final will cover just the second half of the course. And yes, it'll be fine if you were all done with everything by Wednesday. I can't think of a reason to make you keep doing things till the last possible moment.
Incidentally, you've got my sympathies about the effects of pain medication. I've been posting for the last ten days or so myself under fairly heavy pain medication in the wake of extensive oral surgery. Good luck with your knee! |
| Jenna Stimac |
Posted - Aug 01 2010 : 7:18:05 PM
I just had a question about the content of the final. Is it cumulative or is it on the content covered from the midterm until now? I also wanted to clarify that I can have all my work finished by Wednesday night for the course, correct? I have knee surgery Thursday morning and think it would be best to finish my work before otherwise there may be some strange posts because of the pain medication. :) |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 10:35:35 AM
Never mind. I think I found it—right there on the "Announcements" page. Repair made. Now, unfortunately, you've got only almost six days instead of almost six months to finish that final draft! |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Jul 30 2010 : 10:20:50 AM
Hmm. December 4th is late. I must have been thinking it's already fall. Where on the Blackboard site did you find this howler? Tell me and I'll go fix it. |
| Katie Contreras |
Posted - Jul 29 2010 : 10:54:42 PM
Just wondering, could the essays really be due on December 4th!! That really would give me a lot of time to whip up an awesome essay!! Just kidding. The Blackboard site does say the 4th of December, though. Just thought I'd let you know. |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 07:19:26 AM
Here are the answers: - No new Plato reading next week; no new lecture; no quiz. Otherwise, everything will be as usual (i.e., you'll have to do your regular 12 postings) except that the final draft of your essay is due no later than 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, August 4, and there'll be a final exam available at 10:00 a.m. on Sunday, August 1 that you'll have to complete by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, August 6, and
- The final draft of the essay must be completed and posted by 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, August 4. Late submissions will be penalized at the rate of 10% (a letter grade) for each calendar day the final draft is late.
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| Richard Mikel |
Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 5:37:52 PM
I have two questions: - Will next week's course work be pretty much as normal, or is there a difference because of the final?
- And forgive me if it says this somewhere else, but when should we be finished with our essay?
Thanks in advance.
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| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Jul 08 2010 : 2:56:40 PM
Eliott, thanks for clueing me in. I didn't have you two pegged as folks so shy that you'd hide your essays under a bushel template! |
| Eliott Dimond |
Posted - Jul 08 2010 : 1:25:27 PM
Tom, I noticed that you put that John and I didn't submit anything for our essays, but if you scroll down to the bottom of our essay pages, we did post essays, just not at the top like others did.
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| Aaron Mund |
Posted - Jul 08 2010 : 10:35:45 AM
There are no quizzes listed on the syllabus for the rest of the term. Are there going to be quizzes? Are they going to be on the particular part of Symposium being discussed in the lectures? |
| Joseph Haag |
Posted - Jul 07 2010 : 2:07:32 PM
As Tom said, Richard, it really is best to make your first draft as polished as it can be. From my experience, it is usually not good to put out a severely fragmentary first draft (for example, a single paragraph). If you do well on your first draft you can use it as your final draft as well. |
| Tom Trelogan |
Posted - Jul 07 2010 : 1:59:50 PM
Richard, here are my answers to your first two questions:
#Make your first draft as polished as you can. I will do a thorough critique of it, and the fewer criticism I have to make the better, from both my point of view and yours. Why should I waste my time and yours telling you how to fix things you could fix yourself?
#Your citations of Rouse's translation should take the first form: (Rouse 250). I've been citing my references to the text using both the precise Stephanus numbers (which I get from another translation since Rouse's editors' practice of putting a range of Stephanus numbers in the right-hand header instead of putting the numbers in the margins makes it impossible to be sure just where one is in the text) and the Rouse pagination, thus: (416c, Rouse 250) so that they'll be useful to anyone who isn't using the Rouse translation as well as to those who are. If you follow my advice and got with (a), then make sure that your entry in your list of works cited looks like this:
Rouse, W.H.D., trans. Great Dialogues of Plato. New York: Signet Classics, 2008. Print.
The reason is that the author's or translator's or editor's name appearing in the parenthetical documentation should be the name under which the work is listed in the list of works cited.
In this case, Richard, I don't think you're overthinking anything at all.
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Regarding the passage from the Theaetetus, the big question is what translation you want to use. If you use the one I quoted, you can describe it in the body of your paper as coming from the Theaetetus and then cite its location parenthetically I did on your Journal's discussion page: (189e-190a). The translation I used is the Harold N. Fowler translation at the Perseus Project, so add an entry to your list of works cited that reads like this:
Plato. Theaetetus Trans. Harold N. Fowler. Perseus Project. n.d. Web. 7 July 2010. <[[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/]]>. |
| Richard Mikel |
Posted - Jul 07 2010 : 1:49:21 PM
Also, this is coming up a bit late, but I may include it in my rough draft and then edit it as needed. I'd like to cite that passage in which Sokrates describes thinking as a dialogue that the soul has with itself that you (Tom) mentioned on my Journal Discussion page. I'd need to cite that from the Theaetetus, correct?
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| Richard Mikel |
Posted - Jul 07 2010 : 12:52:17 PM
I have two questions concerning the essay. First, how polished should our rough drafts be? I'm still in the process of working on it but I see the draft being fairly scattered, possibly even considered "not completely organized." And when it comes to citing our Rouse translation of Plato's Dialogues within the text, is it supposed to look like a) (Rouse 250) b) (Plato 250) c) (Rouse 416A-417B) or d) (Plato 416A-417B)?
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